Amy Finiki and Kath Maclean are Spiritual Pastoral Therapists for the Mental Health, Addiction and Intellectual Disability Service (MHAIDS). Most days they can be found in Porirua as Kaitiaki (guardians, caretakers, protectors) of Karakia i te Koraha (Prayer in the Wilderness - Porirua Hospital Chapel). They work throughout the region and country with people from all walks of life. Amy and Kath are proud members of Australia and New Zealand Association for Clinical Pastoral Education (ANZACPE), the New Zealand Association from Clinical Pastoral Education (NZACPE) and the New Zealand Hospital Chaplains' Association (NZHCA). They are both ordained ministers. Between them they have over 45 years of experience in Chaplaincy and Spiritual Therapy.